Good morning. I spoke with the CEO and co-founder of Intuition Robotics about the philosophy of AI companionship.

It’s a fraught topic and a fascinating conversation.

I hope you enjoy it.

— Ian Krietzberg, Editor-in-Chief, The Deep View

In today’s newsletter:

AI for Good: Supercharging the shift to a circular economy 

We live in what has been referred to as a linear economy. In other words, we buy stuff, then we throw it out to buy more stuff. And so on, and so on. 

The problem with that is both our space and our resources are finite; more than 100 billion tons of resources enter the global economy each year, according to the World Economic Forum. Under 10% of that gets recycled and reused. Meanwhile, e-waste numbers keep rising; in 2022, we produced 62 million tons of e-waste, an 82% increase from 2010 (the business of AI is actively contributing to the rise in e-waste).

This brings me to the idea of a circular economy, which, as the name suggests, involves more focused reuse efforts and is intent on more sustainable, long-term consumption. Such a system, according to WEF, could be fantastic for economies as well as the health of people and the planet. 

According to a 2023 report from the United Nations Environment Program (UNEP), the Metabolic Institute and One Planet Network, AI can help get us there. 

The details: The report suggests three overall stages — rethinking product design/manufacturing, extending the lifespan of products and the effective reuse of material. 

Why it matters: What we’re talking about is the rapid analysis of several enormous data sources at once, tied together with trend prediction. “Artificial Intelligence can gather, analyze and interpret complex environmental data and information to understand issues during the design and manufacturing process and prioritize action, such as refusing the use of certain products and materials.”

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Apple, Nvidia and others used data from 173,536 YouTube videos to train AI models

As the issue of copyright infringement pertaining to the training of AI models continues to play out in the courts, the industry has largely worked to maintain a smokescreen around the specifics of the data at play. 

A recent Proof News investigation found another creative frontier that has been scraped and leveraged (for free) to train AI videos: YouTube. 

The details: The investigation found that video transcripts from 173,536 YouTube videos (across 48,000 channels) were scraped by dataset creator EleutherAI without the permission, compensation or knowledge of the channel owners (and possibly in violation of YouTube’s terms of service). 

AI researcher Chomba Bupe said in response that “these companies should be paying for the data they are using to train their models on. Greed is one hell of a drug, it will be humanity’s downfall.”

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Exclusive Interview: Founder of Intuition Robotics talks AI companionship

Much of the technology we interact with today involves some form of enhanced communication. The internet — and everything it spawned — had the clear effect of bringing the world together (and making everyone in it more isolated). 

More recent advancements in artificial intelligence, meanwhile, are beginning to lead to an exaggeration of that communicative tech. I am talking, of course, about AI companionship. 

The idea of AI companionship has taken a few other forms, as well. Intuition Robotics sells a device called ElliQ that is marketed as an “AI care companion robot designed to empower independence and promote healthy living.” 

The target audience for ElliQ, though, is not lonely young men. The device is an “electric pal” specifically for the elderly, designed to check in on users, remind them to take their medicine and interact with them in a regular, intuitive way.

At the same time, there are real risks here, risks that take a variety of forms. 

One of these involves an “over-dependence” on AI partners that could “hinder the development and maintenance of authentic human connections, as well as diminish individuals’ capacity for empathy, vulnerability and the skills necessary to navigate the complexities of human relationships,” according to AI expert and ethicist Nell Watson. 

“Given what we know already that the drivers of gender-based violence are those ingrained cultural beliefs that men can control women, that is really problematic,” she told the Guardian.

The tricky thing is that no one really knows what the impact of prolonged AI companionship will be. There’s no real data on that. We don’t know how it will impact human psychology and sociology. There might be some good things. There will be some bad things. 

I sat down with Dor Skuler, the CEO and co-founder of Intuition Robotics, to talk about ElliQ and the philosophy of AI companionship. Since my own impressions on the idea of AI companionship evolved throughout our conversation, I thought it best to recreate some of it for you. 

The following has been lightly edited for clarity and length. 

The Deep View: Much of the AI sector is deeply philosophical. And the place you’re playing at, where the target is older people to help with loneliness, that’s really interesting to me, because there is an element to this that’s almost dystopian, of a digital friend because there’s no one else around. I'm wondering how you landed at that target group; why was that the focus?

Dor Skuler: That was the goal and the technology came after. It is a bit dystopian, where modern society is. It used to be that the older people in our lives, they were the wise men and women of the village. They were the people you would go to for advice; they would be the counsel of the tribe. Now, we are in this very, very small group of just our immediate family. And when we age, we're essentially kind of thrown to the wayside to a certain extent. And that's not how I want to age and it's not how I want to see my parents aging.

Unfortunately, we can't snap our fingers and surround our loved ones with people. Going to see Mom or Dad once a week for a couple of hours — which I wish everybody would do — even if you do that you still have all the rest of the hours of the week that they're by themselves, and it's especially profound once you lose a spouse. 

We felt that in the times when the person is alone, a digital friend is better than the alternative. But it has to be done right and it can't be a flash in the pan of some game that gets old after two hours. 

The Deep View: With language models, what we’re seeing is the illusion of intelligence rather than the real thing. With something like this, where the target is elderly loneliness, does it matter? Is this the point where the illusion becomes good enough? 

Dor Skuler: To a certain extent, we have needs and this product helps meet those needs, and whether they’re delivered by a carbon machine or digital machine, I'm not sure it matters. But how matters. 

So we made sure from the get-go that ElliQ never pretends to be human. She's always authentically an AI. 

We felt like as long as we were authentically an AI, then humans can decide if they want to build a relationship with this AI knowing exactly what it is and what it isn't. Just like we know how to do that with pets. People that have dogs, dogs take a really important part of their life. They have a real relationship with them, but they never confuse that with a real person. That's what we try to do here and that's what we're seeing from our customers; they see ElliQ as something in between a device and a human, but not a human and not a device. 

The Deep View: We’re seeing a broad push toward conversational assistants; I’m wondering what you think about these kinds of synthetic companions around younger generations, of having kids grow up with something like this? 

Dor Skuler: I have very little experience with that. I can tell you that my kids have a relationship with ElliQ. I don't know what the effects are on children and I think at a higher level — these are personal thoughts, not the company view — I think younger people experience loneliness while being next to other people. It's something about social media, the devices, the screens … you could be right next to somebody else and still feel very lonely, whereas the population we serve are lacking human contact.

And that to a certain extent is a different thing to solve. When you think about it, the harshest punishment we have in modern society is sending a prisoner to solitary confinement. And that's what we subject the people we love most in the world to on a regular basis. It just doesn't make much sense. 

But to a certain extent, it might be easier to solve that problem than it is to get three kids that are in the same room not to feel lonely.

Skuler added that user data belongs to the user, whether or not someone else is paying for it. And the company explicitly asks every time before sharing data (which it does with medical services). He said that Intuition never sells user data: “We're profitable enough on a per unit economic basis to not need to do any of those things.”

I don’t know how I feel about this. I don’t have an essay for you on this one. I maintain that it’s a shame that there is no other option. And I personally find the idea of building a relationship with an AI to be disturbing, and like much of the weirdness in this field, anti-human. 

But if it helps people who don’t have another option, I certainly don’t have a problem with that. 

I just worry what it will usher in. I worry about a world where kids grow up around AI companions. I worry what that will do to us.

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