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Some investors are scrambling to cope with the pace and frequency with which hedge fund investors like Tiger Global have swooped in on startup deals. Turner Novak welcomes it – not just for the memes. “I benefit as a small investor, where I’m like, ‘Tiger, keep investing in my portfolio companies so I look really smart,’” Novak tells Midas Touch.
Last week, Novak announced his largest investment ever, for online car sales business Vinn based in Canada. You can read our colleague Nina Wolpow’s writeup of the investment, and why Novak and Vinn CEO Caleb Bernabe are so bullish about the category here. Novak stuck around to keep chatting with Nina about his approach as an emerging fund manager in today’s environment, after launching Banana Capital earlier this year. Highlights below.
Ready player one: What makes Novak enjoy venture investing? It’s a lot like a video game, he says. “It’s never ending, the score is just generating returns for your investors.” When retirement funds and day traders are perfectly capable of identifying stocks like Amazon and Netflix on their own, Novak says it’s simply more fun to build a portfolio of non-obvious challengers that could be the next big no-brainer tech stock. The research into a new category or market is part of the game; so is winning the deal, and finding ways to put points on the board for entrepreneurs considering partnering with certain investors.
“I’ve always been the nerd who is on the internet and just love learning about this stuff,” Novak says. “You can make money, get paid from just being up-to-date on everything that’s going on.”
The online hustle: As a Michigan-based investor who went to Grand Valley State University and has worked at companies like Mercantile Bank of Michigan and the local Van Andel Institute endowment, Novak has never carried the typical badges of elite venture capital, be it an Ivy League degree or experience at a buzzy tech startup or high-growth business like Facebook or Stripe. Instead, Novak’s calling card is his online brand; on Twitter, he’s fast approaching 100,000 followers. There he describes himself “twitter gagman, meme investor” (descriptions apparently borrowed from Nina’s story).
Novak’s strategy: as an Internet-first VC, whose business is built online, he’ll appeal to fellow highly-online entrepreneurs, too. “People who are really good at using the Internet to generate demand for a product, they understand the nuances of how another culture works,” Novak says. That means Novak collaborates and frequently checks in with other investors with online audiences who blog, post analysis, or otherwise share their work in public. “For founders, it can be attractive because they want exposure, they want customers, they want to tell the public they’re recruiting.”
That explains all the memes from Novak and a cohort of investors who project an image of spending their workdays joking around and “shitposting” (a popular term for the activity of posting deliberately provocative, ironic or off-topic comments on social media, in order to amuse or goad an audience) instead of doing analysis or portfolio support. While it’s certainly fun for someone like Novak, he notes such online personas are cultivated marketing strategies, too. “I make fun of the VC industry, and a lot of the founders really connect with that. They’re like, ‘I agree this is all ridiculous, I’m glad you get it too.’ You’re almost participating in it like you’re bonded, in a way,” he says.
Much of the most ridiculous, performative behavior from VCs on Twitter and elsewhere, Novak argues, can be explained this way. “They do it because they’re trying to stay top of mind. Being the first person that a founder will think about when they’re raising money, it explains so much of the craziness of the industry and the things that are just so cringeworthy.”
VCs acting out online are also demonstrating they’re in on the joke, Novak says. “You’re showing you’re an insider without actually saying it.”
The serious part: Novak says he does try to “mix it up” with insightful content in his online postings, without taking himself too seriously. Novak’s a generalist who bounces around in his areas of focus. (Perhaps his video game of choice would be an immersive, large-scale world-builder.) But some areas of interest to the investor: ecommerce for low-income consumers now more accessible through mobile phones, and “China for X” – taking models that worked well in the world’s largest domestic market and applying them in new ones in Latin America, Southeast Asia or Africa.
“I think a lot of people overlook just taking one model and training it on different markets,” Novak says. “But I don’t think there’s anything that’s under-invested in, to be totally frank. You’re always super opportunistic and know there’s a lot of capital chasing things, and everyone’s really smart.”
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