Here’s a hot take that might set off any millennials in the room: Shrek 2 is better than the original Shrek.

Wait! Before you throw your phone out the window and reach for the nearest pitchfork, hear me out. Yes, Shrek is an undeniable classic that revolutionized animation, launched a franchise that fans still love today (sometimes perhaps a little too much), and forced the Oscars to introduce a “Best Animated Feature” category, but Shrek 2 took everything that made the original great and somehow made it even better.

Shrek 2 boasts better animation, it added movie legends like John Cleese and Julie Andrews to the cast, it introduced Antonio Banderas as Puss in Boots (the gift that keeps on giving), and it features a scene in which a Godzilla-sized Gingerbread Man attacks a castle while “Holding Out for a Hero” blasts in the background. It even nabbed a Palme d’Or nomination at Cannes.

Now, 20 years after Shrek 2’s original release in May 2004, Inverse speaks to Mike Myers along with four other members of the crew to find out how Shrek 2 defied the sequel curse to eclipse the original and become an animated classic.

No matter how you feel about AI gadgets and their usefulness, there’s no doubt that products like the Humane Ai Pin and Rabbit R1 have revitalized interest in new hardware.

Reviews for both standalone AI gadgets have not been great. Making matters worse, both Humane and Rabbit have been mired in their own concerning startup issues. Almost two months after the Ai Pin was panned by many tech reviewers, last week Bloomberg reported Humane is looking for a potential buyer. The tech startup, co-founded by ex-Apple veterans, Imran Chaudhri and Bethany Bongiorno, is reportedly seeking $750 million to $1 billion, though it’s possible it might not find a buyer or have to settle for less.

What was supposed to be a breakthrough year for AI hardware has so far turned out to be frustrating, with skeptics suggesting the whole product category might be a fad. And who could blame anyone for thinking that when AI and chatbots are on a collision course with smartphones? Who needs a standalone AI gadget when AI will be integrated right into iOS and Android?