Quick heads up - registration for my upcoming mastermind group will close tomorrow.

If you're at $5K+ MRR - sorry, we're out of spots now, we've already got 8 members in the group instead of 5 from this tweet. I'll probably run another group or add more members to this one again in a couple of months. So keep an eye out for the announcement.

If you're starting your journey and are at less than $5K MRR, there are still a couple of spots left. If you're interested, please join from the link below -

​Indie Masterminds​

Registrations close tomorrow.

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Last date - 14th July

Kick off - 16th July

Now, onto today's story - Systeme

Systeme is an all in one marketing tool doing $704K MRR.

• Non technical solo founder
• Built by 3 developers
• Serving hundreds of thousands of users

Breaks all conventional wisdom -

• Freemium pricing
• Hyper competitive market
• “All in one” product instead of a “niche”

This is there revenue chart -

It competes with -

• Funnel builders like ClickFunnels, Groovefunnels, Thrive cart etc.
• Email marketing platforms like Mailchimp, ConvertKit, Mailerlite etc.
• Course hosting platforms like Podia, Kajabi, Gumroad etc.
• Website builders like Wix, Divi, Elemento etc.

It really is “All in one” 🤯

​Systeme’s alternatives page is a work of beauty. Do take a look.

Conventional wisdom tells us that -

• Your product should NOT be a swiss army knife (doing everything) instead it should be a Catana sword (doing one thing very well)
• You should not compete on price in a crowded market.
• If you can’t make something work in a year, you should give up and move on to the next project.

Well Systeme’s founder Aurélien Amacker has turned every piece of conventional wisdom on it’s head.

Starting up

He had a background in digital marketing - selling info products - courses, e-books etc.

In 2015 - he decided to build a platform for other digital marketers like himself. He hired a dev agency to build it.

Realized the agency was very bad what it did. He says - “They had no idea, that they had no idea”

That’s dangerous. He ended up losing $34K and 6 months on that agency.

After much trial and error, he found a good developer via Upwork, and got him to build the product. Over time, he also hired a couple of more developers to build out more features.

Aurelian used his existing email list to get the first 400 customers for the product. And then kept growing afterwards.

Standing Out

At the time the leading player in the space was ClickFunnels (From Russel Brunson)

ClickFunnels was also the fastest growing non VC funded SaaS company of all time.

But ClickFunnels had no free plan, it was crazy expensive ($97/month), had an average product, and primarily served the US market.

2 Factors that contributed to Systeme’s initial success -

• Focusing on the French market.
• Offering a cheaper alternative to ClickFunnels.

This is how Aurelian describes his pricing strategy -

Even today - ClickFunnels doesn’t have a free plan, and starts at $127/ month

While Systeme has a generous free plan, it’s paid plans start at $27/month and its most expensive plan is at $97/month.

Top Growth Channel

Affiliates!

Aurelian comes from the affiliate marketing world. So he understands the power of affiliates better than most SaaS founders.

Today, Systeme offers a generous 60% commission to it’s affiliates. And according to the affiliates page on it’s website, it has payed our over $5M in affiliate commissions so far.

Lessons

Top lessons from Systeme’s success -

• Partner up or hire folks with complementary skills - you don’t have to do it alone.
• In a saturated market, you CAN compete on price -as long as the competition is priced very high. Don’t compete on price in a market where the top player has a low cost offering. (Read how Tally benefited from Typeform’s price upgrade)
• Geographical niches can have the riches - Systeme found PMF in the French, Dutch, Portugese markets before entering the English speaking world. If you know a geography well, you can find success by replicating a successful product from another geography.

And just keep trying…

20% of your efforts will yield 80% of your results.

This is Aurelian’s advice for folks starting out -

Read Aurelean’s full interview on Indie Hackers back in 2019 -

• ​How I Built a Better Team and Grew Revenue to $50K MRR​

Hope you found this useful.

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Cheers 🙌

From the vault -

3 random post from the Superframeworks archives -

• ​$25K MRR with a simple status page​
• ​$1M ARR with single page site builder​
• ​My failure to build a DTC E-commerce business​

🔗 Super Links

Useful links you don’t want to miss -

• ​Towards an automated entrepreneur - Ethan Mollick
• ​Here's why smart people do dumb things - Sahil Bloom
• ​Lessons from 6 years of Indie Hacking journey - Pierre de Wulf
• ​How I made $430 with just a tweet and a landing page - me
• ​$6B startup from a remote village in India. Bootstrapped - Jesse Pujji

Last week's top link -

• ​From Idea to Revenue in 13 steps - John Rush

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