Managing the mental ups and downs with Geraldine DeRuiter and Rand Fishkin

Hi Bootstrappers,

I'm taking a break from the podcast for a few weeks. Meanwhile Peldi from Balsamiq is stepping in as host for a mini-season.

In this week's episode Peldi chats with married couple Geraldine DeRuiter (author) and Rand Fishkin (software founder) on how their fields differ - and how they are more similar than you'd think.

Topics include:

• How the software industry is less special that we think
• Dealing with the loneliness and isolation of being a founder or author
• Managing your own psychology
• How a supportive partner shares your mental ups and downs 
• The value of having a peer group (aka friends) for mutual support
• The challenge to ignore the VC hype machine

Listen to this week's episode of Bootstrapped.

Until next time,

Steve McLeod
Bootstrapped podcast | Bootstrapped community

PS: This episode is also on YouTube.