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How Do I Increase Engagement Through Email Marketing?

It’s been a long time since I listened Ask Pat - Pat Flynn’s coaching podcast. I didn’t actually know he was still doing it. 

But a random conversation on Reddit led me to this episode. It's all about getting engagement through your email marketing.

It's not only relevant to email marketing - if you’ve got an email newsletter it also makes a lot of sense to engage with readers (hello 👋)

Lessons learned
  • Email shouldn't only be a one way communication with your audience. It's a 2 way medium.
  • Try to get engagement sooner in your marketing sequences. Your subscribers are opening welcome emails the most - use that to trigger a conversation. When you wait longer, interest drops off.
  • When you ask for things in your email, promise to add value in the reply. Promise to send back some personalized ideas and resources. (side note: I recently changed the Podboxer welcome email to do exactly that)
  • Give an example of the kind of things other people are asking you - it lets them know it's ok to ask the dumb questions, or the really difficult ones, or the silly ones.
  • If you're linking out to a piece of content, encourage interaction in the comments.
  • Hold something back from a marketing sequence and tell them they can get it by replying (special bonus video, ebook, template, etc.)
  • To really raise the bar, use a service like Bonjoro to send a personalized video to subscribers. Or to people who take a specific action e.g. buy a product. Hard to scale with big numbers but can add a wow factor when starting out.
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Stand out by being awesome

9 Unconventional SaaS Marketing Strategies - Tim Soulo of Ahrefs

Ahrefs is a $40M ARR, fully bootstrapped SaaS. Running lean at 50 employees.

A huge part of their success comes down to marketing strategies that don't follow the usual playbooks.

This great interview with CMO Tim Soulo walks through some of the things they're doing to keep on growing.

This episode is just as relevant for non SaaS.

Also... keep an eye on this podcast (Confessions Of A B2B Marketer), it's a relatively new one and the host, Tom Hunt, is known for excellent in depth articles on business growth. I'd expect more quality interviews in the future.

Lessons learned

  • Create a course to educate your potential users on how to get the results they are looking for. And although they could use other tools to achieve the results, it would be easiest with your software.
  • A course could also be used as a separate revenue stream.
  • When doing marketing at events (or anything really) try doing something different that appeals to the inner geek of your audience. Get them talking and sharing.
  • Then when they start sharing, amplify the exposure with paid ads.
  • Ahrefs does paid ads to educational content. And they don't do retargeting - they don't believe in tracking users. Epic content is doing the heavy lifting.
  • Normal thinking is that users of software find their aha moment whilst using it. Email is usually used to help find that moment and convert to paid user. Not Ahrefs. Their goal is to get users to aha before they sign up. It becomes a no brainer to purchase.
  • Help your customers become advocates of your product. Give great content and then make it incredibly easy for them to share and tell everyone they know all about how awesome you are. Word of mouth is a hugely important channel.
  • Tim's way to get started with a YouTube strategy - start, make a video with your phone, iterate, experiment and see where it gets you.
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