Podboxer - 👇 Service-as-a-service

Podboxer is back! But as you might have noticed, I'm not Paul Metcalfe 🤭. A few weeks ago, I acquired Podboxer. I was a reader of this newsletter and really enjoyed it. Now, I'm glad to bring it back to your inbox to help you discover podcasts about sales, productivity, marketing, operations and other topics that will aid your entrepreneurial journey. 

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Now, onto the podcasts...

How to turn a service into a subscription business


Unlimited graphic design service Penji makes around $250,000 in monthly recurring revenue.

Its co-founder Johnathan Gryzbowski credits part of his business success with forgoing a paycheck for about five years so he could reinvest money back into the full bootstrapped business. His advice: "Eat dirt as often and as much as you can in the beginning."

In this episode, Johnathan discusses how the idea for Penji took shape and how he and his co-founder pivoted from an agency model to what he calls "service-as-a-service." 

Top lessons learned:

  • Originally, Penji hired U.S. designers, but it was financially unsustainable. So Johnathan started hiring designers from the Philippines, Central America and Asia.
  • In the beginning, they found a few A-players and then sourced people from their networks.
  • Penji pays designers between $400 and $1,000 per month and the average designer works with 10 to 20 (or sometimes more!) customers per month.
  • Penji launched with a $79/month plan and was losing money. Around the time the company reached 100 customers, Penji raised its prices, which now start at $399/month.
  • Johnathan says SEO is the biggest source of customer acquisition. They invest a "ton of resource and time and money" into content and target a range of keywords, including "cool logos." Penji also ranks well for its industry keywords, "unlimited graphic design" and "on-demand graphic design." 
Listen to the episode

🧠 Podcast wisdom


How can you make a podcast that will be a valuable sales tool for your business? 

Dani Hao, community and events lead at B2B fintech company Procurify, says about 30% of guests on the company's podcast have gone on to become partners or customers. We wrote up how they've achieved that on the Podboxer blog. (Brands That Podcast).
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🔥 Sizzling 


Rags to riches: Jayson Waller's True Underdog hit #1 on Chartable's Global - Business- Trending chart (updated weekly). Don't know Jayson? Good background interview on Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan

Make $$ post COVID: NYU prof Scott Galloway talks to James Altucher about his predictions for life when COVID-19 is in the rear-view mirror. (Btw, Podcast Notes has a good summary of the episode.)

Virtual hiring: Hired at the start of the pandemic, GoPro Chief Digital and Marketing Officer Aimée Lapic shares her unique take on virtual hiring and remote onboarding on How I Hire.

Monetize your pod: Want to make a podcast that generates revenue? On How I Built It, Joe Casabona explains why sponsorship is not the answer. 

Validate your online course idea: Paul Thomson, founder of the Online Course Creators Hub, talks about how you can create a successful online course â€” even if you don't have millions of followers (Wild Business Growth Podcast).

💡 Spotlight


If you dig interviews with successful people in a range of fields, you might like the 1 Hour Intern. Over 23 episodes and counting, young host William Briger talks with a former CIA director, journalists, VCs, physicians, the co-founder of YouTube, and other heavyweights. Don't let the name fool you, this isn't just for interns. 
Thanks for reading!

I hope this helped you find some cool stuff to listen to and ideas for growth. 

I'll see ya next week.

Jaclyn (aka Jacci)
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