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Do things that don't scale, you don't need thousands of downloads to make $$$, and even Jack Conte struggled to get investors when he started Patreon...

How Nathan Barry Built ConvertKit to $2.1 Million Per Month 


Even if you know Nathan Barry's story (author starts growing a following online, gets enamored with email marketing, builds a SaaS, becomes a bootstrapped success story), you're likely going to find value in this interview — particularly if you need the motivation to start or keep building. 

There's a lot here about the value of doing things that don't scale and how efforts in business compound over time. Today, ConvertKit has close to 34,000 active users. 

Noteworthy insights:

  • Nathan was highly influenced by a sentiment he heard from content marketing guy Sean McCabe: Show up every day for two years.
  • Nathan documented the process of building ConvertKit and set a goal of reaching $5,000 MRR within 6 months. He didn't meet that goal: He reached around $2k MRR after half a year.
  • From talking to customers in the early days, Nathan learned that they didn't want to deal with the process of switching from their current email software provider. So he started offering to do it for them for free  a process that could take up to 8 hours. He views the time spent doing that as an investment in the business. 
  • ConvertKit has launched a paid newsletter product. Nathan shares how the vision for it differs from Substack, which he compares to Amazon — end-to-end solution w/limited customization. He thinks of ConvertKit's newsletter monetization product more like Shopify — simple to use, but with a lot of options to customize. 
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🧠 Podcast wisdom 


If there's someone who knows a thing or two about creating a system for building an audience, it's Alex Wilhelm, TechCrunch's senior editor and the former editor-in-chief of Crunchbase News.

On a recent Indie Hackers interview, he shared everything he knows about content strategy. And we gathered his tips.
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🔥 Sizzling 


How Patreon started: When Jack Conte started Patreon, he struggled to convince investors that there was a big enough market of creators who needed a way to get paid for their work (How I Raised It).

Build a business empire: Gary Vee's former COO James Orsini is on Entrepreneurs Circle sharing lessons on what it takes to build a major biz. Today, James is president of The Sasha Group, a marketing consultancy. On the day he announced The Sasha Group, they had 4,700 inquiries in 48 hours.

Hire help: On Jeff Large's podcast, Jess Lindgren, an executive assistant with 16+ years of experience, shares tips for when to hire an executive assistant and how to hire the right person for you.

$300k from 200 listeners: Self-proclaimed podcast nerd Jeremy Enns talks podcast growth and monetizing a small audience on Daniel Gefen's Grow Your Show. 

Pandemic pivot: Travel blogger Gary Arndt discusses how he'd had to radically rethink how he lives and earns as the travel industry ground to a halt in 2020 (The Fizzle Show).

💡 Spotlight


Looking to grow?! You might enjoy Scale! with Predictable Success, a podcast about how to launch, grow and lead your business or not-for-profit. Hosted by business advisor Les McKeown, author of the bestselling book, "Predictable Success: Getting Your Organization On the Growth Track - and Keeping It There." A past episode features former Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh (RIP). 
Did you make it this far?! Thanks for reading! 😉

I hope this helped you find some cool stuff to listen to  let me know! 

I'll see ya next week.

Jaclyn (aka Jacci)
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